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| eddieriv | | Set |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 21/06/2015 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Bloomfield, NJ, United States |
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| | Posted : 19 Sep 2015 - 17:38 Post title : Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm | | | I installed the digital Guard Dawg DGD-KIM-U universal keyless ignition system on my 2013 Storm, i like it a lot, with this system you can keep the fob in your pocket & when you get close enough to the bike the ignition livens up, you can also set it up to press the button on the fob to turn the the ignition on, then just flip the engine start switch on the handle bar to turn it on, no more key.
It took me 3 days of staring at the wiring diagrams just to work up the courage to cut the wires to install this system, but it works great & i'm happy with it. Here's how i did it...
The ignition harness plug is behind the fuse box, the ignition switch has 2 bolts holding it on & you'll need to insert an allen key behind the bolts to remove them.
This part is self-explanatory, DON"T FORGET TO DISCONNECT POSITIVE TERMINAL ON THE BATTERY BEFORE YOU BEGIN
I mounted the unit on the right side of the battery box with some double sided 3M Velcro tape & short screws, used the screws to carefully tap the holes through the battery box then I backed them off & grinded the tips of the screws to make them round then I reinstalled them, you don't want anything sharp against the battery, be careful not to use long screws or else you'll pierce the battery.
These are snap shots of the page in the service manual I used to figure out the wiring, not very clear but you can reference page 472 for the wire color codes & pages 478 & 479 for the wiring diagram in this service manual pdf, copy & paste the link below.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB0QFjAAahUKEwjvwo6Um4PIAhWFkQ0KHQI4Bmg&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftrumpettouring.files.wordpress.com%2F2014%2F09%2Fthunderbird-service-manual.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFZXrxYt5e1hF734wVcIXftJv8mNQ&sig2=AIv69MZBailb2P_ItRVi3Q
NO.45 is the ignition switch, there are 6 wires attached, the red/white, red/yellow & gray wires are the hot wires, the orange, green & brown wires are the returns to the fuse block. On the other side of the harness(the side coming out of the fuse block) you have 3 brown wires(all 3 are hot), all 3 come from the main 30amp fuse, the 3 brown wires power up everything, the blue/yellow goes to no.37 the starter relay, the green wire goes to no.25 the fuel pump relay & the yellow wire goes to the brake light, license plate light & position lights(the little bulbs in the headlight)
Here's the diagram for the DGD-KIM-U unit, to wire up the unit to the ignition harness you have to twist together the red/yellow & red/white wires together & attach it to the red wire of the wireless unit, then twist together the Orange & green wires & attach them to the red/black wire of the wireless unit, then attach the gray ignition wire to the brown wire on the keyless unit, then attach the brown ignition wire to the red/grey wire on the keyless unit.
Now for the installation of the start/stop wires, the harness is located on the right side above the engine, on my bike the 2 wires for the start/stop switch are the green/brown & blue/yellow wires, snip those 2 wires & solder them together at the harness, then attach the blue/yellow wire to the gray wire on the keyless unit then attach the green/brown wire to the black/white keyless unit.
Now you can attach the ground wire to the battery. There's an accessory circuit attached to this unit you can use for LED's, you need to attach a separate on/off switch to control it, you can tuck it away somewhere for later use if you don't plan on using it immediately.
The only problem I came across is that the Position lights in the headlights are on all the time, the only option was to live with it or pull the bulbs out, I chose neither, I replaced the headlights with LED Halo headlights from Oracle Lighting, my thinking was "if it's gonna be on all the time it may as well look good". These headlights are slightly larger(1 or 2mm maybe) than stock, I had to modify the mounting ring inside the headlight housings to make room for the mounting taps on the headlight, I also had to get screws about a 1/4'' longer to secure the outer headlight rings.
Another thing I did was rearrange the wiring on the headlight switch & auxiliary light switch to allow me to turn the headlights off in the day time, I unsoldered the hot wire from the headlight switch & added it on top of the hot wire for the auxiliary light switch, then I detached the other wire on the aux switch & tape it off since it's no longer in use, last I soldered a piece of wire from the aux switch to the hot side of the headlight switch, so now I can turn the headlights on & off using the aux switch, pretty easy since the switches are right next to each other, the halos are super bright even in broad day light.
The last thing I did was cut a piece of flat steel, painted it flat black & put it in place of the ignition switch, i'm gonna drill 2 holes in the plate to put an up/down switch for my air ride suspension & an auxiliary switch for a future LED project. I'll be doing a step by step of the Air Ride system next week hopefully.
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| | Posted : 19 Sep 2015 - 23:55 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | | Wow good work... How much did it cost you?
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| eddieriv | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 21/06/2015 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Bloomfield, NJ, United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Sep 2015 - 00:01 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: barks) | | | $250 for the keyless module + $100 for the headlights.
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| | Posted : 20 Sep 2015 - 12:46 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | | Excellent write up and photos, I've been contemplating something similar.
Thanks to you, it's now moved up on the list. 
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| | Posted : 20 Sep 2015 - 15:36 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: Dags) | | | So what happens if the Key fob craps out or is lost away from home?
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| eddieriv | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 21/06/2015 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Bloomfield, NJ, United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Sep 2015 - 18:15 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: Daycruiser) | | | According to their website, you simply call their customer service center & they can get you going over the phone, I hope I never have to find out
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| | Posted : 20 Sep 2015 - 18:32 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | | I may have missed it, but what about the clutch "safety" switch?
Is it just bypassed?
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| eddieriv | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 21/06/2015 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Bloomfield, NJ, United States |
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| | Posted : 20 Sep 2015 - 20:39 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: VABird) | | | No, the bike doesn't start by itself, you still have to squeeze the clutch & push the button on the right, if the remote is not within range the bike won't start, it's exactly like push to start cars
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| | Posted : 21 Sep 2015 - 18:01 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | | Oooohhh... I thought remote was .... you know; remote!
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| | Posted : 22 Sep 2015 - 00:11 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | |
eddieriv wrote:
No, the bike doesn't start by itself, you still have to squeeze the clutch & push the button on the right, if the remote is not within range the bike won't start, it's exactly like push to start cars |
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Can it be rigged to work like a car? I mean to work like my Nissan, push button then stall if key is out of range .... 
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| | Posted : 22 Sep 2015 - 03:17 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | | If you leave it idling and walk out of range, does it shut down?
Cool project but seems like a lot of work to just avoid inserting a key.
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| eddieriv | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 21/06/2015 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Bloomfield, NJ, United States |
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| | Posted : 22 Sep 2015 - 11:09 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: PapaSmurfMC) | | | It's more of a theft deterrent than anything else but the bike will keep running once started.
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| | Posted : 23 Sep 2015 - 02:18 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | | Sorry for the grilling but once I get interested, can't help myself....
So if the bike doesn't turn off if you go out of range, then the Digital Guard Dawg isn't duplicating the function of the ignition switch. Are your instrument cluster lights on even when the bike isn't running?
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| eddieriv | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 21/06/2015 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Bloomfield, NJ, United States |
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| | Posted : 23 Sep 2015 - 12:58 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: PapaSmurfMC) | | | The FOB only completes the ignition circuit so it's ready to start, you still have to flip the run switch on the handle bar, squeeze the clutch & press the start button, nothing turns on or lights up unless the FOB is close enough to read(in my testing it's about 15 feet) & you flip the run switch. I hope that answered your question.
I saw your post on the LED turn signals, if you do this mod & find the name of the harness plug so you don't have to cut wires please let us know where you got it.
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| SeattleRod | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 13/07/2015 | | Posts | : | 38 | | Location | : | Seattle, United States |
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| | Posted : 07 Oct 2015 - 04:43 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | | Bitching work Eddie. It looks awesome. Looking at the Oracle website, I can't seem to figure out which Halo kit will fit the Storm. Do you happen to know the part number for the kit?
Thanks.
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| | Posted : 07 Oct 2015 - 16:20 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: SeattleRod) | |
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| | Posted : 07 Oct 2015 - 17:45 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | |
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| | Posted : 07 Oct 2015 - 18:02 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: SeattleRod) | | | Eddie, last question. the wires for the halo have to be connected to a resistor prior to connecting it to the bike wires, right?
Thanks.
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| eddieriv | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 21/06/2015 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Bloomfield, NJ, United States |
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| | Posted : 08 Oct 2015 - 00:52 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: SeattleRod) | |
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| | Posted : 08 Oct 2015 - 01:23 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | |
eddieriv wrote:
Nope, direct connection |
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Thanks Eddie!
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| SeattleRod | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 13/07/2015 | | Posts | : | 38 | | Location | : | Seattle, United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2015 - 15:58 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | | Eddie,
So I'm installing the Oracle lights and when installing the outer retaining ring, there is a gap of 7mm all the way around. How were you able tighten the ring so as to have it sealed around the light?
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2015 - 16:20 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: SeattleRod) | | |
SeattleRod wrote:
Eddie,
So I'm installing the Oracle lights and when installing the outer retaining ring, there is a gap of 7mm all the way around. How were you able tighten the ring so as to have it sealed around the light?
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So, I'm a complete idiot! I figured it out, I was putting the retaining ring backwards!!. That's why I had such a big gap in the front.
Well, live and learn.
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| SeattleRod | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 13/07/2015 | | Posts | : | 38 | | Location | : | Seattle, United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Oct 2015 - 05:10 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | |
eddieriv wrote:
Nope, direct connection |
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So, the lights are installed and they do look pretty cool, but i blew a couple of fuses and the 5 amp fuse that used to power the running lights have a 20 amp fuse now. They are working properly but I'm concerned about the excessive amp draw from a LED set up and the alternator.
Did you have any fuse problems with your installation?
Thanks Eddie.
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| eddieriv | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 21/06/2015 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Bloomfield, NJ, United States |
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| | Posted : 18 Oct 2015 - 03:47 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: SeattleRod) | | | The LEDs draw a lot less than the incandecent bulbs, you must have crossed some wires by mistake during installation, a 5 amp fuse is more than enough for the LED halos
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| SeattleRod | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 13/07/2015 | | Posts | : | 38 | | Location | : | Seattle, United States |
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| | Posted : 18 Oct 2015 - 05:26 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | |
eddieriv wrote:
The LEDs draw a lot less than the incandecent bulbs, you must have crossed some wires by mistake during installation, a 5 amp fuse is more than enough for the LED halos
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Eddie,
You were right, I did crossed the wires by mistake. I knew there was something going on, i just didn't think it would be the wires, since it is such an easy set up ( what a moron).It's all fixed now running on a 5amp fuse. I took the bike for a ride around the block to check the lights and man, they are bright. Maybe too bright for traffic. I might have to follow your move and connect the halos to the aux light switch, so I can turn them off when necessary.
Thanks a bunch for your help.
SeattleRod.
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| eddieriv | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 21/06/2015 | | Posts | : | 25 | | Location | : | Bloomfield, NJ, United States |
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| | Posted : 18 Oct 2015 - 11:09 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: SeattleRod) | | | I rerouted the headlight power though the aux switch, the halos stay on all the time, the headlights are switched on & off manually.
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| | Posted : 29 May 2022 - 07:43 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: eddieriv) | | |
eddieriv wrote:
Now for the installation of the start/stop wires, the harness is located on the right side above the engine, on my bike the 2 wires for the start/stop switch are the green/brown & blue/yellow wires, snip those 2 wires & solder them together at the harness, then attach the blue/yellow wire to the gray wire on the keyless unit then attach the green/brown wire to the black/white keyless unit.
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Digging this thread up as I'm curious how the long term longevity of the system (notably the kill switch) and also trying to workout exactly kind of plugs these are, they look to be Deutsch connectors, but I could be wrong.
I'm toying with the idea of getting one of these, however I like my mods completely reversible.
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| | Posted : 02 Jun 2022 - 06:55 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: StrippedChicken) | | | Looks like they're Sumitomo's 6195-0051 and 6195-0054.
Anyone able to confirm?
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| | Posted : 10 Jun 2022 - 09:59 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: SeattleRod) | | | So are the position lights ( parkers ) on ALL the time or only when the ignition is activated
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| | Posted : 12 Jun 2022 - 06:02 Post title : Re: Digital Guard Dawg keyless ignition on my 2013 Storm (Re: Bender) | | |
Bender wrote:
So are the position lights ( parkers ) on ALL the time or only when the ignition is activated |
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From how I read both Eddie's first post and the wiring circuit for the Dawg, it's only when you've got the fob in proximity and the kill switch is in the on position.
The kill switch seems to 'cut' the circuit and tell the unit to shutdown once the fob is out of reach, after a set time the unit will then go into passive or active scanning (settings dependent) waiting for the fob to re-initiate the sequence.
As long as the kill switch is in the off/kill position, the power to the lights should be cut.
When you flick the kill switch into the live position, the circuit is complete and all the dials/lights are fed their power, then you hit the starter switch and you're ready to go.
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